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The Oral Majority will NEVER FORGET the day Democracy Died.

Bob Kunst Testifies
before U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, Miami, FL.

Transcript of testimony on 02/17/01 - Open Forum

Bob Kunst: First of all, welcome to S. Florida and, uh, we're not the scapegoat for the rest of the country on what needs to be addressed today. And, I'd like to paint another picture on both — being a native of Miami Beach and a long time activist.

I've taken on Anita Bryant, Jerry Falwel,l and 63 demonstrations recently, through my organization, Oral Majority. And we are oralmajorityonline.com for you to use as reference with an Evidence Room that's collected a great deal of data on what's going on here.

I want to put out a perception that exists. And simply: One, Gore won the state; and secondly, this state was stolen by Bush; and thirdly, we've become a scapegoat for the rest of the country that doesn't want to act on it. As if we're all a bunch of looney-toons, all a bunch of rip-offs. As if nobody here knows how to vote, and we're just an insane group of people.

Quite honestly, of the 63 demonstrations — including one we've had right out in front of this building this morning — we get a completely different feedback from the grassroots community that is totally angry, and not letting go of this issue.

So, this puts another burden on you, which is not to be a jury on civil rights. Or, are you going to be like the Democratic Senators that decided to cover it up, or the media that decided to cover it up. When, in essence, we have a huge amount of evidence, already, of what's going on here... and you are just looking at the tip of the iceberg.

On November 7th, when we had a close election here, 20 out of 67 counties DID NOT do the mandatory required recount. That's 1,800,000 voters in Florida, that have yet to be recounted. It has not happened yet! We have a Supreme Court, of course, that decided to play politics, and even when they said, I suppose a statewide standard was set in Broward County, accepted by Katherine Harris, nobody wants to talk about it.

57,000 over votes - there is already rumor to the fact that these ballots have been tampered with and double punched by individuals - 80% of those would've gone to Gore.

The Herald has sued Duval County in order to have access to 24,000 votes. Duval doesn't want to give up its votes because it might be subject to all kinds of tampering there.

2000 illegals have also voted in this state. I'm quoting newspaper stories here. You need to get yourself a very serious news clipping service of everything that's come out in the state.

Just because the national media is covering it up, doesn't mean it isn't happening in this state. Lots of people know what's going on and this is transferred around the country.

4,000 people were disqualified as felons when they were only misdemeanor people. Katherine Harris managed to spend 4 million dollars to manage that little business.

The butterfly ballot was only one issue. Quite honestly, as a voter from Miami-Dade, I am outraged that the people in Palm Beach were so concerned about having Thanksgiving dinner that they couldn't even count their ballots to turn in to Katherine Harris. That's another 400 votes for Gore!

Here in Miami-Dade, 1700 ballots were already counted that were misaligned. That means people were voting for both candidates and Gore was 316 votes ahead.

To paint the picture very clearly, our Senate Democratic candidate Bill Nelson won by 280,000 votes in this state over Mr. McCollum, who was on the impeachment panel. Now, if your going to tell me 537 votes separating Gore and Bush, here, means that all those people came out to vote for only a Senate candidate and NOT a Presidential candidate... if you don't smell a rat — the rest of the country does!

What we need to look at here is that 200,000 Floridians were disenfranchised, and that every county is suspect. And, that what's happening now is, we have a bunch of media trying to investigate the whole thing, and, probably within another 3 weeks, they'll come out with a lot more outrageous things that have already happened. The Orlando Sentinel found another 203 votes for Gore in Orlando just a few days ago.

When you start adding it all up, what we're looking at is somewhere between 22,000 and 50,000 votes for Gore NOT for Bush. 537 votes — which means, in a sense, we have an illegal, illegitimate imposter for President, who has no problem going to Mexico today to tell everyone that he's a newly elected President like Mr. Fox. And on the other hand, Mr. Fox probably won legally, where Bush DID NOT in this country.

In the meantime, he's bombing Iraq as a diversion to let us know that we shouldn't talk about any of the stuff that's going on here any more. Then, we should have to keep on beating Clinton to death on every single issue, to make sure that we NEVER get back to the bottom issue — that the election was stolen!

The bottom line in all this, is that Florida isn't taking it anymore. AND that were not taking it anymore! And were going to protest and were going to do it all over the country. And I can tell you right now, on Sunday in Dayton Beach, we'll have a banner flying over the Daytona 500 saying "Bush Stole the Election" with our website. And we've already done it at the Super Bowl in Tampa. We're taking it to the Kentucky Derby, the Indianapolis 500 and every single place we can, including the Academy Awards.

We're not allowing this issue to die, no matter what any of the politicians do. No matter what anyone else does! We're running a candidate against Jeb Bush to make sure, in the Democratic primary, we clean his clock AND Katherine Harris AND the whole gang.

What we want from this Commission is a commitment to NOT just be another political organization.

Mary Frances Berry: Thank you.

Kunst: I'd just like to end my comment, may I please? I will submit all this in writing to you.

What I want to suggest to you is really very simple. The public has been had. We have 4 members of the Supreme Court; we have 13 members of Congress. Thank God for the Black Caucus that opened up their mouths on January 6th. We have 655 law professors around the country that signed on to say, "the Supreme Court went out of bounds to play out this coup d'etat."

The bottom line is — do we have anyone we can trust and believe in, any longer, to take our case to the rest of the community?

This is a major disaster, what's happened to our country. And NOT to talk about it; to trivialize it; and, let it go on is unthinkable and unconscionable. We've been raped. We've been had. We're not putting up with it anymore! Thank you.

Barry: I understood your testimony. I want to thank the panel, and I have one quick question - I'm not sure I understood something you said. It went by me. You said something about "the standard" set by Katherine Harris in Broward County. Do you remember saying that?

Kunst: Yes.

Barry: What were you talking about?

Kunst: The Supreme Court, when it decided to NOT further count any of the votes, said 'we must have a statewide standard.' So, when they were ready to do their anointing of George W. Bush, they said, 'we needed a statewide standard in order to stop the count.'

The fact is the standard had already been set by Broward County. It was the most liberal interpretation of all the chads, the dimples, the pimples, and everything else that was going on. Broward County decided to work on Thanksgiving. Broward County decided to turn in its numbers ahead of time, at the proper time. And Katherine Harris decided to accept it.

Barry: I just want to make sure I understand this point, 'cause it's an important one. You're saying that in accepting the Broward County count with the standard that they used, Katherine Harris accepted their vote, which she accepted as an appropriate standard.

Kunst: Yes, yes, right. And it wasn't applied to another county.

Barry: Which means that the Supreme Court, as I understand, in Bush vs. Gore, says that there was "a need for a statewide standard", and, that Katherine Harris was the person who was in charge of the elections, and, ostensibly, makes these decisions. What you're saying is she's already made the decision, and, all they had to do was incorporate her decision about Broward County.

Kunst: That's my point. And they stopped the count to give the election to Bush.

Barry: I've already heard that. Thank you very much.

Kunst: My pleasure.

Kunst Archives GO!

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